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SiYuan vs Zettlr
A side-by-side editorial comparison of SiYuan and Zettlr — release velocity, themes, recent moves, and the top alternatives to consider.
SiYuan vs Zettlr: at a glance
What is SiYuan?
SiYuan 3.8.11 alphas add freeform mind maps and plugin snapshots right after 3.8.10.
SiYuan pushed 3.8.10 through betas and release candidates between November 7 and 9, carrying workspace AI memory, database sub-items and a built-in Markdown editor. The 3.8.11 alphas followed within days: freeform mind map relationships with per-node connector styles, browsing and restoring plugin snapshots, excluding assets from cleanup, a built-in date picker and rich text in database primary keys. Alpha 4 adds search and replace in the standalone Markdown editor.
What is Zettlr?
Zettlr added admonitions after six years, then spent a release fixing its updater.
Zettlr 4.8.0 brought admonitions, a feature six years in the making, plus translation updates and a fix for a long-standing logic bug in search. 4.9.0 followed in late October to stop a false 'Update failed' error introduced by 4.8, drop macOS 12 and old Ubuntu support, distrust the eMudhra TLS certificates and render reference-style images.
SiYuan vs Zettlr: editorial side-by-side
SiYuan
5.0COLLAB
SiYuan 3.8.11 alphas add freeform mind maps and plugin snapshots right after 3.8.10.
◆ Current state
SiYuan pushed 3.8.10 through betas and release candidates between November 7 and 9, carrying workspace AI memory, database sub-items and a built-in Markdown editor. The 3.8.11 alphas followed within days: freeform mind map relationships with per-node connector styles, browsing and restoring plugin snapshots, excluding assets from cleanup, a built-in date picker and rich text in database primary keys. Alpha 4 adds search and replace in the standalone Markdown editor.
◆ Where it's heading
SiYuan works in fast public cycles, with the next version's alphas starting as soon as the last one stabilises. 3.8.11 is about polish and editing depth: mind maps, databases and the new Markdown editor all get more control.
◆ Prediction
Expect more 3.8.11 alphas, then betas and release candidates with the same list, following the 3.8.10 pattern.
Zettlr
2.5COLLAB
Zettlr added admonitions after six years, then spent a release fixing its updater.
◆ Current state
Zettlr 4.8.0 brought admonitions, a feature six years in the making, plus translation updates and a fix for a long-standing logic bug in search. 4.9.0 followed in late October to stop a false 'Update failed' error introduced by 4.8, drop macOS 12 and old Ubuntu support, distrust the eMudhra TLS certificates and render reference-style images.
◆ Where it's heading
Releases arrive roughly monthly and alternate between a headline writing feature and cleanup of the previous one. The app is tracking Electron's platform support, so older operating systems will keep falling away.
◆ Prediction
A small 4.9.x fix release or a feature-led 4.10 in about a month fits the pattern; the entries don't hint at its contents.
Alternatives to SiYuan and Zettlr
Other Collab products tracked by Sparkpulse, ranked by recent ship velocity. Each card links to a full editorial trajectory and lets you pivot into a head-to-head comparison with either SiYuan or Zettlr.
Nextcloud
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Mattermost
Mattermost v12.1 puts bots and burn-after-reading messages under the same access rules.
Asana
Asana lets Division admins run their own custom roles, on top Enterprise plans only.
Double
Double turns a recorded Chrome session into an agent that repeats the task.
Hive
Hive turns reporting into a planning tool: shared inputs, grouped values, per-person drill-downs.
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Recent activity from SiYuan and Zettlr
Latest ship moves from both products, interleaved chronologically. ⚡ = editorial spark.
- 19h agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.11 alpha 4 adds search and replace to Markdown editor
- 1d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.11 alpha: freeform mind maps, plugin snapshots
- 4d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 RC5: related database views, better LAN sync
- 4d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 RC3: AI memory, database sub-items near stable
- 5d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 release candidate 2
- 5d agoSiYuanSiYuan 3.8.10 release candidate 1
- 20d agoZettlrZettlr 4.9 fixes update errors and drops macOS 12
- 1mo agoZettlrZettlr 4.8 adds admonition blocks
- 3mo agoZettlrZettlr 4.7 adds long-requested custom shortcuts
- 5mo agoZettlrZettlr 4.6 fixes regressions from the editor transition
- 6mo agoZettlrZettlr 4.5 adds a long-running task indicator
- 6mo agoZettlrZettlr 4.4 improves the file manager and security model
Frequently asked questions
What is the difference between SiYuan and Zettlr?
They serve adjacent needs but don't currently overlap on shipped themes. SiYuan is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 5.0 vs 2.5), with 0 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. See the at-a-glance table above for a side-by-side breakdown of velocity, recent sparks, and editorial themes.
Is SiYuan better than Zettlr?
Sparkpulse doesn't pick a winner — we score release velocity, not feature parity. SiYuan is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 5.0 vs 2.5), with 0 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. For your specific use case, the alternatives sections above list other Collab products to evaluate alongside.
What are the best alternatives to SiYuan?
Top SiYuan alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "SiYuan alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/siyuan for the full list with editorial commentary on each.
What are the best alternatives to Zettlr?
Top Zettlr alternatives in Collab are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "Zettlr alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/zettlr for the full list with editorial commentary on each.