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discrim vs loo
A side-by-side editorial comparison of discrim and loo — release velocity, themes, recent moves, and the top alternatives to consider.
discrim vs loo: at a glance
What is discrim?
discrim settled into a thin engine shim after handing its model definitions to parsnip.
discrim is the parsnip extension for discriminant analysis, exposing linear, quadratic, flexible and regularized variants through the tidymodels interface. Its model definition functions moved into parsnip itself in 0.2.0, leaving this package as the engine and prediction layer. The two most recent releases are a documentation fix and a single prediction bug.
What is loo?
loo keeps rewriting the diagnostics Bayesian modellers read off model comparison
loo computes leave-one-out cross-validation and model comparison for Bayesian models in the Stan ecosystem. Two releases in this window changed what users actually read: 2.7.0 replaced the fixed Pareto-k thresholds with sample-size-dependent ones and dropped the middle category, and 2.10.0 reshaped loo_compare's output into a data.frame with new uncertainty columns. The releases between are diagnostic robustness fixes and moment-matching corrections.
discrim vs loo: editorial side-by-side
discrim
0.0ANALYTICS
discrim settled into a thin engine shim after handing its model definitions to parsnip.
◆ Current state
discrim is the parsnip extension for discriminant analysis, exposing linear, quadratic, flexible and regularized variants through the tidymodels interface. Its model definition functions moved into parsnip itself in 0.2.0, leaving this package as the engine and prediction layer. The two most recent releases are a documentation fix and a single prediction bug.
◆ Where it's heading
The package built out method coverage early, adding quadratic discriminant analysis in 0.1.2, the sda and sparsediscrim engines in 0.1.3 and case weights in 1.0.0, then stopped growing. Handing definitions upstream to parsnip in 0.2.0 confirmed the shape: discrim is where engines are wired, not where the API lives. Cadence since 2022 is roughly one small fix a year.
◆ Prediction
Nothing in the entries points to new methods or engines; the next release is most likely another CRAN or prediction-path fix.
loo
2.5ANALYTICS
loo keeps rewriting the diagnostics Bayesian modellers read off model comparison
◆ Current state
loo computes leave-one-out cross-validation and model comparison for Bayesian models in the Stan ecosystem. Two releases in this window changed what users actually read: 2.7.0 replaced the fixed Pareto-k thresholds with sample-size-dependent ones and dropped the middle category, and 2.10.0 reshaped loo_compare's output into a data.frame with new uncertainty columns. The releases between are diagnostic robustness fixes and moment-matching corrections.
◆ Where it's heading
The package is being brought in line with the current PSIS literature rather than extended with new features, and the practical effect is that the numbers practitioners quote in papers keep changing meaning. Work is increasingly delegated to posterior for shared computations, and the project has added contributor process, benchmarks and a published AI contribution policy.
◆ Prediction
Expect further work on comparison diagnostics — the p_worse and diag_* columns are new enough that their defaults and documentation will likely be revised next.
Alternatives to discrim and loo
Other Analytics products tracked by Sparkpulse, ranked by recent ship velocity. Each card links to a full editorial trajectory and lets you pivot into a head-to-head comparison with either discrim or loo.
textrecipes
Text features finally stay sparse all the way to the model.
probably
The package that made calibration a step instead of an afterthought.
workflowsets
workflowsets keeps widening what counts as a model worth comparing.
workflows
The tidymodels pipeline grew a third stage, and it happens after the model runs.
vetiver
Posit's MLOps package went quiet for two years, then came back to keep up with recipes.
Recent activity from discrim and loo
Latest ship moves from both products, interleaved chronologically. ⚡ = editorial spark.
- 20d agoloopsis_smooth_tail revert and simplify arg restored
- 1mo agolooloo_compare returns a data.frame with new uncertainty columns ⚡
- 7mo agolooStacking overflow fixes and posterior-based ESS
- 8mo agodiscrimFix for FDA models failing at prediction time
- 11mo agodiscrimDocumentation links updated to stay on CRAN
- 2y agolooMore robust Pareto-k diagnostics and moment matching
- 2y agolooPareto-k thresholds now depend on sample size ⚡
- 3y agolooLOO predictive metrics and CRPS scoring functions
- 4y agodiscrimCase weights enabled for flexible and linear discriminant models
- 4y agodiscrimModel definitions moved upstream into parsnip
- 5y agodiscrimsda and sparsediscrim engines added for LDA and QDA
- 5y agodiscrimdiscrim_quad() added; package relicensed to MIT ⚡
Frequently asked questions
What is the difference between discrim and loo?
They serve adjacent needs but don't currently overlap on shipped themes. loo is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 2.5 vs 0.0), with 0 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. See the at-a-glance table above for a side-by-side breakdown of velocity, recent sparks, and editorial themes.
Is discrim better than loo?
Sparkpulse doesn't pick a winner — we score release velocity, not feature parity. loo is currently shipping more aggressively (velocity 2.5 vs 0.0), with 0 editorial sparks in the last 30 days against 0. For your specific use case, the alternatives sections above list other Analytics products to evaluate alongside.
What are the best alternatives to discrim?
Top discrim alternatives in Analytics are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "discrim alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/discrim for the full list with editorial commentary on each.
What are the best alternatives to loo?
Top loo alternatives in Analytics are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "loo alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/loo for the full list with editorial commentary on each.