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climate vs surveytidy
A side-by-side editorial comparison of climate and surveytidy — release velocity, themes, recent moves, and the top alternatives to consider.
climate vs surveytidy: at a glance
What is climate?
climate stops scraping and starts parsing: an in-house SYNOP engine replaces the HTML path.
climate pulls meteorological, hydrological and sounding data in R from public providers, chiefly the Polish IMGW-PIB repository, OGIMET and NOAA. Version 1.4.0 changes how it gets that data rather than what it offers: a new synop_parser() reads raw SYNOP messages directly, the OGIMET functions take a parser argument and default to SYNOP for hourly data with HTML kept for daily summaries, and the XML parsing engine has been replaced by in-house code to cut dependencies. The sounding functions also lost their server-side thermodynamic indices when the legacy Wyoming interface shut down.
What is surveytidy?
surveytidy taught every dplyr verb to operate on a whole collection of surveys at once.
surveytidy is the tidyverse-facing half of a two-package survey stack, wrapping survey design objects from surveycore so filter, mutate, select and the rest work on them while carrying variable labels, value labels and a transformation log alongside the data. The May release extended that verb surface to survey_collection, the abstraction surveycore uses to hold several surveys as one object, so a pipeline written once dispatches across every member.
climate vs surveytidy: editorial side-by-side
climate
0.0INFRA · APIS
climate stops scraping and starts parsing: an in-house SYNOP engine replaces the HTML path.
◆ Current state
climate pulls meteorological, hydrological and sounding data in R from public providers, chiefly the Polish IMGW-PIB repository, OGIMET and NOAA. Version 1.4.0 changes how it gets that data rather than what it offers: a new synop_parser() reads raw SYNOP messages directly, the OGIMET functions take a parser argument and default to SYNOP for hourly data with HTML kept for daily summaries, and the XML parsing engine has been replaced by in-house code to cut dependencies. The sounding functions also lost their server-side thermodynamic indices when the legacy Wyoming interface shut down.
◆ Where it's heading
This package's history is largely a record of upstream providers changing underneath it, and 1.4.0 is the release where it stops absorbing those changes and reduces its exposure to them. The 1.2.9 notes described a 20-second pause between OGIMET requests as a temporary measure and named a SYNOP parsing engine as the intended fix; that engine is now here, and SYNOP messages can be retrieved in bulk rather than one scrape at a time. Owning the parser and dropping XML means the next provider-side HTML change is a smaller problem than the last one was.
◆ Prediction
Expect the SYNOP path to become the default for more of the OGIMET surface as it proves out, with the HTML parser retained only where the provider offers nothing else. Whether the thermodynamic indices return in some form, or stay permanently delegated to thundeR, is the open question these notes leave.
surveytidy
0.0INFRA · APIS
surveytidy taught every dplyr verb to operate on a whole collection of surveys at once.
◆ Current state
surveytidy is the tidyverse-facing half of a two-package survey stack, wrapping survey design objects from surveycore so filter, mutate, select and the rest work on them while carrying variable labels, value labels and a transformation log alongside the data. The May release extended that verb surface to survey_collection, the abstraction surveycore uses to hold several surveys as one object, so a pipeline written once dispatches across every member.
◆ Where it's heading
The package is being built in two layers that arrive in order: vector-level transformations first, structural dispatch second. The make_* family in 0.4.0 handles the recoding that survey work actually consists of — labelled to factor, multi-level to dichotomous, scale reversal, valence flipping — with value labels propagating automatically. Collection support then applies data-masking, tidyselect, grouping, slicing and collapsing verbs per survey, with joins explicitly refused and a typed message reporting which surveys were skipped. Metadata fidelity is the recurring bug source: labels surviving across(), stale labels left behind by recoding, the transformation log keeping up with what the verbs did.
◆ Prediction
Joins are the one verb family that errors on collections, with users directed to join before constructing the collection, so that restriction is the clearest outstanding gap. The re-export of surveycore's collection constructors suggests the package is positioning itself as the single import users need, which points toward more re-exports as surveycore's stable API settles.
Alternatives to climate and surveytidy
Other Infra & APIs products tracked by Sparkpulse, ranked by recent ship velocity. Each card links to a full editorial trajectory and lets you pivot into a head-to-head comparison with either climate or surveytidy.
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stochvol
A Bayesian volatility sampler in its maintenance decade, paying for its own speed
midr
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Recent activity from climate and surveytidy
Latest ship moves from both products, interleaved chronologically. ⚡ = editorial spark.
- 1mo agoclimateIn-house SYNOP parser replaces the HTML and XML path ⚡
- 2mo agosurveytidymutate() syncs metadata for across() recodes
- 3mo agosurveytidydplyr and tidyr verbs dispatch across survey collections
- 5mo agosurveytidyFive label-aware recoding functions for use inside mutate()
- 6mo agoclimateIMGW header fixes and faster selective station downloads
- 10mo agoclimateHydrological telemetry datastore access added
- 1y agoclimateCorrupted IMGW archives skipped instead of breaking downloads
- 3y agoclimateallow_failure keeps CRAN checks green when services are down
- 4y agoclimateMultiple station names fixed; units moved to attributes
Frequently asked questions
What is the difference between climate and surveytidy?
They serve adjacent needs but don't currently overlap on shipped themes. climate and surveytidy are shipping at a similar cadence (velocity 0.0 vs 0.0, both within Sparkpulse's "active" band). See the at-a-glance table above for a side-by-side breakdown of velocity, recent sparks, and editorial themes.
Is climate better than surveytidy?
Sparkpulse doesn't pick a winner — we score release velocity, not feature parity. climate and surveytidy are shipping at a similar cadence (velocity 0.0 vs 0.0, both within Sparkpulse's "active" band). For your specific use case, the alternatives sections above list other Infra & APIs products to evaluate alongside.
What are the best alternatives to climate?
Top climate alternatives in Infra & APIs are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "climate alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/climate for the full list with editorial commentary on each.
What are the best alternatives to surveytidy?
Top surveytidy alternatives in Infra & APIs are ranked by recent ship velocity. Browse the "surveytidy alternatives" section above for the current picks, or visit /alternatives/surveytidy for the full list with editorial commentary on each.